The
2 main roads leading to infertility (apart from anatomical issues like uterine
issues or blocked tubes) are:
1. Declining egg
quality/number
2. Factors that hinder
implantation or the development of the baby (autoimmune or clotting factors)
The
decline in egg quality may occur by three very different ways:
- Biochemical aging: Herein, the egg has metabolic
issues; it divides poorly and often does poorly in IVF. People with this
issue hit menopause earlier. Importantly, this problem is correlated with
the antral follicle count, and women with this issue present with
diminished ovarian reserve (DOR).
- Ovarian aging: Herein, the eggs may have no
metabolic issues, even at an advanced maternal age. They may grow well in
IVF, and women with this issue are often found to hit menopause much
later. Yet, something is wonky with the meiotic process, and they produce
eggs with aneuploidy or more subtle genetic abnormalities. Importantly,
this need not correlate with the antral follicle count, and women
with this issue do not present with a diminished ovarian reserve. Indeed,
they may have a great antral follicle count/AMH/FSH. Women with this issue could present with unexplained infertility or recurrent pregnancy loss (RPL).
- Polycystic ovarian syndrome: This is a syndrome characterized by hormonal imbalance. The hormonal imbalance is attributed to insulin resistance. In other words, PCOS is related to Type 2 diabetes. Many women with PCOS cannot ovulate because the hormonal regulation is out of sync. Some other women with PCOS do ovulate, but can have other issues.
Working your
way around biochemical aging (i.e., DOR):
To
reiterate, when you have a DOR, it means that the issue is biochemical aging:
these eggs may be metabolically poor: their capacity to keep dividing has been
compromised. In women of an advanced maternal age, this goes hand in hand with ovarian aging, where
the chromosomal division is also
compromised.
Diagnosing DOR: One important point on determining ovarian reserve: FSH and Estradiol, the gold standards for many years have been proven to be inaccurate in certain cases. A woman might have normal FSH and have a DOR diagnosis. The only reliable marker for ovarian reserve is your antral follicle count(AFC). AMH is used as a marker for your AFC, but the problem is AMH can vary based on your vitamin D levels, and hence is not reliable.
Diagnosing DOR: One important point on determining ovarian reserve: FSH and Estradiol, the gold standards for many years have been proven to be inaccurate in certain cases. A woman might have normal FSH and have a DOR diagnosis. The only reliable marker for ovarian reserve is your antral follicle count(AFC). AMH is used as a marker for your AFC, but the problem is AMH can vary based on your vitamin D levels, and hence is not reliable.
Treating DOR: There is very little
one can do when you have a diminished ovarian reserve. You can try to coax the
best response possible from the few remaining eggs using supplements (See the CCRM cocktail thread).
Working your way around ovarian
aging (unexplained infertility or RPL)
Diagnosing
Ovarian aging: As previously stated, this is the most difficult to diagnose,
because everything could check out as absolutely normal. You have to make the
diagnosis based on what happens to you, and not any laboratory tests.
So your embryos are genetically abnormal, but you have
no way of figuring it out, just by looking at the embryo after IVF. What
happens when the uterus sees an abnormal embryo that can divide very well? Does
it implant? A really interesting study found that the uterus of fertile women
may reject genetically abnormal embryos, while that of some other women (with
recurrent pregnancy loss) may accept such embryos. Based on this, women with ovarian
aging along could hypothetically be divided into two groups:
Group 1: Has
difficulties getting pregnant because the uterus rejects the abnormal embryos
Group 2: Gets pregnant very easily because the uterus implants all embryos, including the abnormal ones, but loses the pregnancies due to genetic abnormalities. This could be a very good explanation for many of women with RPL.
Dealing with RPL combined with the super fertility:
You cannot fix what is messed up with the chromosomal division process, because nobody knows what causes it. You can deal with this situation in one of 3 ways:
1) Rely on luck to find your one good embryo: After 3 failed pregnancies, I did not have what it took to keep hoping for luck, but many people have gone on to have healthy children by this route.
You cannot fix what is messed up with the chromosomal division process, because nobody knows what causes it. You can deal with this situation in one of 3 ways:
1) Rely on luck to find your one good embryo: After 3 failed pregnancies, I did not have what it took to keep hoping for luck, but many people have gone on to have healthy children by this route.
2) Do IVF, and do a day-5
biopsy of your embryos, followed by chromosomal microarray analysis to test all
chromosomes. I've written very lengthy
blogposts on this topic (see the first of the two here), but basically, to sum up all that: If done by a competent
clinic, this does not damage your embryos, and can give you comprehensive
answers about how many of your embryos are normal (note that only around 50-60% of day 5 blastocysts of healthy young
women are normal). It can help you decide if the time has come to give up on
your eggs. Or more happily, it can help identify the 1-2 normal embryos.
Some things to keep in
mind:
Do not go for a day-3 (cleavage
stage) biopsy. This can damage your embryos, and cannot catch mosaicism (where
some cells are normal but others are not). In addition, this process is flawed
in that some embryos that test as normal on day 5 and go on to make healthy
babies were found to test as abnormal on day 3.
Do not go in for FISH
testing as the genetic test to detect aneuploidy.
If your clinic offers a
Day-3 Biopsy and FISH, don’t stick with them.
3) Do IVF and go for
surrogacy: The key here is that the discriminatory uterus of the surrogate may help in
selecting the few good embryos you have (This
is highly speculatory on my part: I base this on the fact that I got pregnant
almost every time, even with embryos that were genetically abnormal; However, 2
surrogates rejected 4 out of my 5 "high-grade" embryos before getting pregnant with one
embryo).
Working your way around
PCOS
Diagnosing PCOS: Different women can
have only certain or all features, which is why it can be often missed in
diagnosis. You need to fulfill atleast 2 or 3 of these requirements to suspect
PCOS.
Physical
characteristics:
Weight gain, hirsutism (abundant, thick facial hair, courtesy an excess of male
hormones), dark patches of skin, acne, ovulatory issues (never have periods or
rarely get one), polycystic ovaries (high AFC) on ultrasound.
In
Blood: Increased
Day-3 LH to FSH ratio (normal is 1), increased androgens (DHEAS, Testosterone),
increased insulin resistance, increased AMH.
Sometimes PCOS can go undiagnosed for years. Take my case for example: I am
skinny (never put on weight), have only slightly thick facial hair but nothing
about it screams classical hirsutism, and ovulate like clockwork. I also have
no insulin resistance, increased testosterone, or a high LH:FSH ratio. In short,
I have almost no cause to suspect PCOS. But what I do have is high AMH, polycystic
ovaries and my DHEAS is mildly elevated. Enough to get me treated for PCOS? I tried
both myo-inositol and metformin, and the myo-inositol seems to have helped.
One
thing about PCOS though- women with this syndrome, in certain cases, could have
a longer lasting ovarian reserve- this is because depletion of eggs occurs at a
slower rate- more details here.
Interestingly,
there seems to be a link with PCOS and autoimmune hypothyroidism (see
below): both interfere with pregnancy and when a lot of women have these 2
seemingly unrelated issues together, it is a little intriguing.
PCOS treatments:
1. Metformin: This is a drug used to
treat insulin resistance in type 2 diabetes, a condition where you are
producing more than enough insulin, your body just stops using it efficiently.
Recently it has come to light that in some mysterious manner, PCOS can
happen because you have issues with insulin resistance. Treatment with
metformin can reduce many of the manifestations of PCOS, can make women start
ovulating again, can decrease the male hormones that cause the hair thickening,
and can decrease antral follicle counts and AMH. Note : Not all women with PCOS
have detectable insulin resistance, but even in the ones that have no
resistance, metformin, in some mysterious way, can help.
2. Myo-insoitol: This is naturally
found in the body, and plays a very ill-understood role in the insulin
resistance that is responsible for PCOS. Importantly, people are finding that
though they do not understand its mechanisms of action, it is a miracle
supplement for a subset of women with PCOS, in that it can induce ovulation and
fix some of the other PCOS symptoms. It can also improve egg quality during
IVF. This supplement is part of CCRM regimen. See my post of myo-inositol and its affects. Overall, what seems to be best is a combination of myo-insoitol and a closely related molecule, D-chiro insoitol. This is marketed as "INOFOLIC combi." However, this one is hard to find, and myo-insoitol + foloc acid alone seems to be almost as effective. This one is available easily as "Pregntitude."
Vitamin D Deficiency
This
is fairly common given that most people spend very little time in the sun,
nowhere close to what nature intended us to be doing. There is increasing
evidence that deficiency in this can contribute to infertility. I've got a few
labeled posts on the subject, you can start with this one.
The
mechanisms by which vitamin D can contribute to baby-creating are many, and it
works on different levels. We don't even know a fraction of these, but progress
is being made here.
- Vitamin D and
AMH: The AMH
gene has a mechanism by which it can be turned on by Vitamin D. This is a
novel and interesting finding ----what does it mean? Does it mean that, if
you are vitamin D deficient, your AMH levels could be falsely low? My
story does seem to suggest this is true. My other markers for
ovarian reserve(Day 3 FSH/E2, antral follicle count) had come back with
excellent results. When we finally tested AMH, it was far too low to fit in
with my other tests. In this same blood test, I had also found out that I
was Vitamin D deficient. So I went looking for a connection between the
two, and I found what I mentioned above. So I first tried to correct my
vitamin D3 deficiency and then retested AMH and it was like magic- Vitamin
D3 had increased 4 fold, and so had AMH! I've been in correspondence with
doctors to conduct clinical trials examining this-- we will see what comes
out of it! UPDATE: Yeah, its true, and has been scientifically shown in this study.
- Vitamin D,
PCOS and Insulin resistance: It is baffling that PCOS,
a hormonal dysregulation syndrome, appears to stem primarily from
insulin resistance. Many women who have PCOS also are Vitamin D deficient
(one study put this number as high as about 40%). Is there a link between
these 3 things? Do women get PCOS maybe because they do not have enough D?
I have wondered about this, but did not see a logical link until today,
when a study that mentioned that Vitamin D could help correct insulin
resistance. Fascinating stuff, really--- do people get vitamin D deficient
first, then develop insulin resistance culminating ultimately in PCOS?
Note that this is not obviously the case all the time-- like I've said
before, there are multiple roads leading to PCOS; this is just possibly
one of them.
- Vitamin D has directly been
shown to be necessary for a gene involved in implantation-the
original paper is here.
- Low vitamin D levels are
definitely associated with autoimmunity. Antiphospholipid sydrome
(APS) is one of the more common immune causes of infertility.
This paper links APS and Vitamin D3
deficiency.
- Vitamin D deficiency earlier in
pregnancy is correlated with a higher risk for preeclampsia.
- Vitamin D deficiency is a risk
factor for spontaneous pre-term birth.
- Vitamin D deficiency now looks
like a risk factor for Autism
- Vitamin D and fetal programming:Vitamin D
induces more than 3,000 genes, many of which have a role in fetal
development . Interestingly, in later life, children of mothers with low
vitamin D serum levels during pregnancy suffer more often from chronic
diseases such as wheezing and asthma, schizophrenia , multiple sclerosis ,
type 1 diabetes mellitus and insulin resistance.
- Vitamin D deficiency is also
implicated in Male factor infertility.
About 90% of people with infertility are also vitamin D deficient. Checking for deficiency and correcting it is a smart way to go.
Hypothyroidism
and Infertility
There
is a lot of controversy and debate over what constitutes a normal range for TSH.
The old normal range of TSH was 0.4-4 (the previous upper limit was 5). The new
revised normal range of TSH is 0.3-3. Beware, your doctor may be a
dinosaur that still follows the old guidelines.
There
are two risk groups of people with thyroid issues, the ones with high TSH and
the one ones with high TSH and the autoantibodies. The latter group is at
higher risk. There are 2 theories of how this could contribute to
infertility/miscarriage. a) there is a paucity of thyroid hormone available to
the developing baby or b) the anti-thyroid antibodies are representative of a
too active immune system, which could be attacking the embryo, or the
preventing implantation, or cause issues later in pregnancy. This is a great
review on the topic, to take to your doctor.
What
constitutes high TSH? Having a TSH level higher
than 2.5 is apparently a risk factor for miscarriage even if
you are antibody negative, though the risk only doubles, going to 6.1 %.
Other
possible consequences of having high TSH- your child could be at higher risk of developing
ADHD.
Higher
TSH has also been linked to lower cognitive function. My take on both
studies is that they do not make terribly strong cases for it, though a very
slight detriment is definitely plausible.
Summary on thyroid issues:
- If you have TSH levels over
2.5, you should get tested for anti-thyroid autoantibodies (ATA). Since 10%
(approximately) of the population has this anyway, it is a good thing to
rule out.
- If you do have ATA, here is a list of stuff to take which could
possibly help deal with the issue. Selenium is reported to lower
anti-thyroid antibody titers. Becoming Vitamin D replete also is supposed
to help.
- While conceiving, err on the
side of caution- if you are fround to have highish TSH (I'd say over 2),
find a competent endocrinologist who will manage it so it stays around 1.
This is accomplished by giving you the thyroid hormone T4.
Testing
Overall,
I think getting a clear picture at the getgo is crucial. Overall, if you do not
have age-related or uterine-structure related IF, then ruling out the unholy
trinity of PCOS, Hypothyroidism and a vitamin D deficiency is the next logical
step: this trio is probably the cause for a significant portion of IF cases, along
with exploring male factor IF, which is not covered here.
Antral follicles early in your cycle (ultrasound)
FSH, LH, prolactin (day 3 blood tests)
AMH, Testosterone/DHEA (Fasting blood tests are
preferred)
Vitamin D (low in about 40% of women with PCOS, and
91% of infertile women) (blood test at any point in your cycle)
TSH and Anti-thyroid peroxidase antibodies (seen in
around 10% of the population) (blood test at any point in your cycle)
In
summary:
Diagnosing DOR is straightforward, but deciding what to do next is never easy.
If you are of an advanced maternal age, you may be dealing with both biochemical aging (DOR) and ovarian ageing. If you want to try to succeed with your own eggs, give it your best shot with IVF while taking supplements (see the post on the CCRM supplement list).
If you are young, do not appear to have DOR or PCOS, then you may have a case of early onset ovarian aging. Diagnosing this is difficult and will take a very long time, because there is no way to figure it out by lab testing. All you may have to go on is either an inability to get pregnant (which some people may also attribute to a hostile uterine environment) or recurrent pregnancy loss: see the section on the 3 ways to proceed in this scenario.
If you are young, do not appear to have DOR or PCOS, then you may have a case of early onset ovarian aging. Diagnosing this is difficult and will take a very long time, because there is no way to figure it out by lab testing. All you may have to go on is either an inability to get pregnant (which some people may also attribute to a hostile uterine environment) or recurrent pregnancy loss: see the section on the 3 ways to proceed in this scenario.
Diagnosing and dealing with PCOS is fairly straightforward. However, if neither metformin nor myo-inositol in combination with ovulation-inducing drugs works for you, then it is more difficult.
I would love to get your feedback on all this information. Please comment/ask questions!
Jay, I just had my Vitamin D level checked and am waiting for the results.
ReplyDeleteWhitney, I kind of hope you come back deficient, because then you atleast have something you can 'fix'. Not being able to identify what is the problem really sucks.
ReplyDeleteThanks for posting this - Vitamin D3 has been the main cause for MANY MANY health issues I've had. And studies and countless tests ... i've gone undiagnosed and had case studies done on me. In short, it's the sever Vit D3 deficiency that made me feel that way. 100-101 fevers for 5 years. Infiltrate on lung - went away after D3 supplement and after 2-3 years of scans, bone marrow biopsies, lung biopsy etc.. Docs don't always test for D3 soooo I'm hoping this helps bring awareness to other ppl. It's a simple blood test and it can be fixed!! I take 8000 IU's / day (drop form)
ReplyDeleteJay - thank you for commenting on my blog- I love you for taking the time, energy and resources to research and document all of your findings for us.
ReplyDeleteI did have my Vitamin D levels checked a while agao and I was low...I have been a substancial dosage since and my levels are finally back in range. I am not using cheapie suppelemtns, I am on 5000iu and my levels appear to be in range again. Thannk you for pointing this out.
The inflammation stuff is new to me, so I am going to be doing a ton more research on it- I'll be reading more of your blog and whatever else I can get my hands on. I am trying to figure out what tests I can take and what treatments I can use to help get my body healthy again.
Thanks again for your comments and support.
xoxoxoxox
Oh my gosh, you're a wealth of knowledge I'm so glad I happened upon your blog! (I saw your very in depth response about Finn's tumor and clicked over).
ReplyDeleteThanks to a bout with melanoma, I have been out of the sun and slathered in SPF for years which resulted in a Vitamin D deficiency (obviously) but I NEVER would have thought that it would have contributed to my fertility issues.
My core "issue" was that my endometrial lining is too thin to sustain a pregnancy which they could never quite figure out but I was pushing them to find out if it was correlated to some really weird results I had with my shbg and testosterone levels.
Luckily, despite a >6mm lining we were able to conceive and have a successful pregnancy but the issues for TTC2.0 are already on the horizon.
You've given me some great resources to check out! THANK YOU!
Love you. Thanks to you, I realized my vit-D is too low. I'm currently working to correct it. Baby Dust to you. Thank you for sharing.
ReplyDeleteHi, my husband and I have been ttc for almost 2 years. I've had 2 m/c in the past year and am desperate to figure out why...my bloodwork came back normal and now i'm scheduled to have an hsg test in the next week or 2. I had to beg my gynecologist to put an order through for my Vitamin D levels. Finally she did and they are low (18L). Do you think this could be why I've been miscarrying? Should I still do the HSG testing?? Thanks for any help/advice!
ReplyDeleteSorry for the delayed response, I just saw this comment. The answer is discussed on this post
ReplyDeletehttp://aboutplanb.blogspot.com/2011/11/investigating-miscarriage.html
Thanks so much for posting this information. I also have normal fsh, e2 numbers, but a very low AMH .17. We just found this out today and are heartbroken, but hoping that a d3 test will confirm that is the issue. If nothing else, at least it's hope.
ReplyDeleteVery interesting. I actually have had low vitamin D in the past and my doctor recommended taking a supplement. I'm not sure why or when I stopped taking it, but I am curious now if I should start again...
ReplyDeleteFound you through ICOMLEAVWE. Love the list of tesst every woman should get. Fortunately I am not shy but I had to advocate very strongly for all those tests, which I got. BUT one I would add to this list is to get the guy tested. No one ever thinks to check the man but it can be a factor in 40% of IF cases.
ReplyDeleteThanks for this. My RE tests for TSH, but nothing else thyroid related. My TSH was "within normal range" according to him, but I went to an endocrinologist for a second opionon and she was convinced it was high enough to be a cause for concern. She actually wants me to take 3-6 months off TTC to allow the synthroid to do it's job. I will see what my RE thinks about this. But it is shocking that their opinions can be so different.
ReplyDeleteMMMsecret...doctors are people of strong and difficult-to-sway opinions and too many of them do not keep up with the latest findings in science. Its kind of hard to decide who is right, but at the end of the day, its best to err on the side of caution. Your endocrinologist is obviously familiar with all the literature cited above, you are in good hands.
ReplyDeleteI think 1-2 months should be enough for the T4 to do its job. I also urge you to get your vitamin D levels tested and treated if necessary (talk to your endo about this, if she questions this, just ask her to run a "pubmed" search on 'thyroid and vitamin D', and also take selinium if you are anti-TPO ab positive.
Thanks for pointing this out. It takes so long to really compile good research. My TSH is 2.83...I'll have to ask my RE what he thinks.
ReplyDeleteJay, I also am a scientist (albeit a social scientist!), and I, too, spend a great deal of time reviewing medical literature to enhance my fertility. It is both empowering and shocking due to the misinformation floating around out there. Thanks for the information! K.
ReplyDeleteOk so I have a new TSH of 2.68 and my Vit D is 35. Thoughts?
ReplyDeleteMrs Green Grass, I think your D3 is just fine. I'd probably supplement with a small dose- like maybe 600 IU/day just to raise it a notch, but I do not think anything more is necessary. Basically, however, your TSH is consistently slightly over 2.5, and will increase if you get pregnant.
ReplyDeleteIn this area, I'd get tested for anti-thyroid antibodies. I'd also find an endocrinologist who is willing to treat you with T4 hormone, to bring your TSH to around 1 for the next round of conception. From my experience, a lot of REs toss aside the study where it shows that a low TSH is ideal for conception and lowers risk for certain issues in pregnancy, but endocrinologists take those studies more seriously.
See a blog by a person in a similar situation below.
http://mmmreader.blogspot.com/2012/03/endocrinologist-visit-report.html?zx=d5d6e9bf7fcffd98
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The info on links between PCOS & Vitamin D deficiency is so interesting. I haven't read that anywhere else, but my wife experiences both. No matter how much Vitamin D supplement she takes, she's still always a little deficient.
ReplyDeleteGood topic and it elaborates all the process very clearly and share it to all infertile parents how to check their fertility and what checkups must be done to prove it.
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