tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57644621261583551.post5507390721906327176..comments2023-05-23T14:31:22.445+05:30Comments on Stork Stalking: Questions on IVF and supplements (updated at the end)Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15553205805046479504noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57644621261583551.post-4897259856857013722012-11-02T02:56:29.388+05:302012-11-02T02:56:29.388+05:30Some links on protocols... some comments may not b...Some links on protocols... some comments may not be relevant if you don't have immunological issues, but since you were referencing the CCRM cocktail, which is their attempt to deal with immune issues while refusing to acknowledge that they exist, lol, I left them in.<br />IVF PROTOCOLS<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Birth control pills<br /><br /><br />It is good to be on bcp's prior to cycling as the estrogen and progesterone in the bcp's reduce NKa and inflammation.<br /><br /><br />Bcp's also help avoid lead follicles so that at the beginning of the <br />cycle all the follicles start at same sizes and there will be more even <br />growth of them and hence more of the eggs will be mature at trigger.<br /><br /><br />However, bcp's do suppress quite a bit, so if there is DOR, and no <br />overlap with Lupron (such as in an A/ACP protocol), then the bcp's might<br /> oversuppress and stunt the response too much.<br /><br /><br />http://haveababy.com/fertility-information/ivf-authority/birth-control-pill-ivf-outcome/<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Estrogen<br /><br /><br />It is good to be on bcp's prior to cycling as the estrogen and <br />progesterone in the bcp's reduce NKa and inflammation. For this reason <br />it is useful to also supplement with high doses of estrogen after ER.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />A significant inverse relationship was <br />observed between natural killer activity and serum estradiol levels, <br />which resulted in moderate and severe disease (r = -0.4, p = 0.009) but <br />not in stages I and II.<br /><br /><br />http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7502688<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Progesterone<br /><br /><br />It is important to be on very high doses of progesterone after ER, as progesterone reduces inflammation and NKa.<br /><br /><br />See the links under "Progesterone" on the TREATMENTS post.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />SIRM protocols<br /><br /><br />Details of SIRM protocols are listed here:<br /><br /><br />http://forums.haveababy.com/lofiversion/index.php?t36938.html<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Different protocols<br /><br /><br />A good link to read up on different protocols:<br /><br /><br />http://www.advancedfertility.com/ivfstim.htmGeorgetteodenhttp://www.cantcontroleverythingafterall.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57644621261583551.post-90985907166206209432012-10-15T23:50:49.206+05:302012-10-15T23:50:49.206+05:30Long time lurker here. One website where you can ...Long time lurker here. One website where you can find an overview on IVF protocols is:<br /><br />http://www.advancedfertility.com/ivfstim.htm<br /><br />Yours sounds like the Flare/ Microflare - see here : <br /><br />http://www.advancedfertility.com/ivf-low-response.htm<br /><br />This one explains how lupron works:<br /><br />http://www.ivf1.com/ivf-lupron/<br /><br />Fertilityforums is a good resource for comparing protocols and people's experiences with the different ones.<br /><br />Hope all this helps. <br /><br /><br /> Beentherenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57644621261583551.post-43939784507319993462012-10-10T08:43:16.399+05:302012-10-10T08:43:16.399+05:30I do know that there was a study going on that had...I do know that there was a study going on that had women taking CoQ10 during IVF cycles. I can't find it now, but I think it was a Canadian study. <br /><br />Interesting about the L-Arginine, will now be stopping it! Shannonhttp://www.shannonsrainbow.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57644621261583551.post-81156318401559856252012-10-09T18:55:56.492+05:302012-10-09T18:55:56.492+05:30It sounds like a flare protocol wherre you start o...It sounds like a flare protocol wherre you start on CD1 with Luron and after 2-3 days reduce the dose. The high Luprpn forces the body to suge on its own production of hormones. Enjoy your vacation. Its a good idea to relax and unwind before the procedure, and all the best with your IVF. <br />Oh and IVF is more scary sounding that in actuality, the stomach shots are really easy and I for one did not have any emotional issues with the hormones. The stress is more mental relating to how the follies grow and fertilize etc. Sunflowernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57644621261583551.post-36977002545832715362012-10-09T14:45:56.427+05:302012-10-09T14:45:56.427+05:30Prednisone could be useful in cases where the caus...Prednisone could be useful in cases where the cause of infertility is suspected to be the mother's too-active immune system. In my case, it appears to be egg quality (manifesting in straight out aneuploidy), and anyway, I'm sidestepping any possible immune issues by using a surrogate.<br /><br />I'm really glad stuff worked out for you!!Jayhttp://aboutplanb.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57644621261583551.post-54787917157641279682012-10-09T14:41:43.776+05:302012-10-09T14:41:43.776+05:30Thanks! I'm not on BC pills. Myo-insoitol, mel...Thanks! I'm not on BC pills. Myo-insoitol, melatonin and argenine come up in studies which show that they may be able to improve egg quality a touch, and god knows, I can't see how it may hurt, though that is always possible in a biological context, but in these studies, the worst thing that happened was that there was no difference between the 2 groups. <br /><br />Myo-inositol has also shown some promise in treating non-ovulatory PCOS, where improvements are easy to spot.Jayhttp://aboutplanb.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57644621261583551.post-17140727106373362832012-10-09T00:58:42.390+05:302012-10-09T00:58:42.390+05:30I'm sorry I don't have any answers for you...I'm sorry I don't have any answers for you but wanted to wish you a happy vacation & very best wishes with your upcoming cycle.Tiaranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57644621261583551.post-46860981151509954972012-10-08T06:06:14.962+05:302012-10-08T06:06:14.962+05:30I don't know much about the supplements as I d...I don't know much about the supplements as I didn't go to CCRM, but as for the RPL, has anyone ever mentioned a steroid such as prednisone?? I had a couple losses and the prednisone seemed to be the magical drug that kept me pregnant. I don't know if that was it for sure, but I have my suspicions. Have fun on your vacation! <br /><br />http://urzaandluna.blogspot.com Jessicanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57644621261583551.post-6411606932383451322012-10-08T05:31:24.217+05:302012-10-08T05:31:24.217+05:30Of course I only have the second half of the IVF- ...Of course I only have the second half of the IVF- the embryo transfer- but lupron is used in my cycle to control the timing. My RE said that without lupron some women ovulate and lose the cycle. Because we are already controlling the timing of my new cycle, I will do five weeks of birth control pills and start the lupron shots at the end of the fourth week. Wishing you luck with the whole process. Nellhttp://mn-adventuresafter40.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57644621261583551.post-45400260027110830332012-10-08T04:05:34.762+05:302012-10-08T04:05:34.762+05:30Hi, for CCRM's DOR supplements, they want you ...Hi, for CCRM's DOR supplements, they want you to start around 3 months prior to stims, and then stop everything except prenatal vitamins and 4mg folic acid when you start stims.Ivfover40noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57644621261583551.post-42450438213075704532012-10-08T01:30:39.840+05:302012-10-08T01:30:39.840+05:30Jay, Good Luck!
Yes the protocol you will be usi...Jay, Good Luck! <br /><br />Yes the protocol you will be using is called flare (micro?) protocol. Lupron used for a short time period will cause the release of your body's natural FSH and this FSH will jump starts your follicles. Hope this protocol works good for you. Normally every protocol works good for women with good ovarian reserve. Are you on BC pills? <br /><br />Regarding supplements- I read you are taking metformin and that sounds really good. I just love that drug : ) Folic acid is very important and because of the MTFHR mutation it is good to take 5 mg and you are doing it already. Co-enzyme Q10 sounds good too. Myo-inositol, L-arginine and Melatonin? Do you think it will do any good? I am very skeptical about Melatonin. If you have a good sleep-wake cycle avoid it. <br /><br />I hope you decipher all the puzzles you have in your mind regarding your RPL and most importantly may this journey gives you a baby you are longing for!Fertility Goddessnoreply@blogger.com